Damn Dame: Thoughts about Damon Dash’s Breakfast Club Interview

It’s been awhile since the former hip hop mogul was in the spotlight. But on Friday, in a highly anticipated interview with The Breakfast Club, Damon Dash turnt up on DJ Envy after the host asked about his relationship with Jay Z. In one of the longest Breakfast Club interviews, the Grinch sat down with the popular morning trio for well over an hour to discuss his thoughts about business, manhood, and miscellaneous mumbojumbo.

1. Still stuck.

His attitude shows he’s still stuck in the Golden Years, when his notorious for yelling at executives, talking down to inferiors, and being an overall asshole. But in 2015, this behavior ain’t gonna fly. With no clout, money, or access, people will be quick to sever what little ties he has left.

Watch this vid from a Dej Jam meeting, and tell me he don’t sound the same.

2. Still feel a way about Jay Z

This man is mostly known for his long association with Jay Z. Of course he’s gonna get asked about it. The way he reacted was too much. And, if anything…he should’ve spoke about it. There’s a whole generation of youngins who don’t know him, but know Jay Z. This was a missed opportunity to educate the millennial market about who he is, where he came from, and why he’s still relevant.

3. Still arrogant.

He may not have his money anymore, but he still has that arrogance. With the yes-men, the puppy, and the talking down to people…ugh.

4. Still business. 

There’s no denying he’s a business genius. His mentality is still sharp; inspiring folks to be their own bosses to have exclusive ownership over their products and services. Ok, I get that. And although the delivery was borderline repugnant, I get the point he was making.

5. Still Black.

I feel him ALL THE WAY on his analysis about how a select number of white people make monster profit off of manufactured Black culture. And in this era of New Blackery, where Black pop stars are conspicuously silent about the industry racial power structure, I found his honesty refreshing.

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21 responses to “Damn Dame: Thoughts about Damon Dash’s Breakfast Club Interview

  1. Can we call Dame a business genius when he hasn’t had a successful venture solo since Roc a Fella?

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    • He made A LOTTTTTT of $$$ with those ventures. The problem was he spent it too quickly, and didn’t count on Jay Z leaving him. BUT, without a doubt, he knows how to make money.

      I think he was blackballed, that’s why he couldn’t make money since. But, it seems like some sanctions have been lifted.

      Who knows. His life, not mine.

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  2. You found him refreshing? I’m confused by you going with him on anything… after he is telling YOU and all women he is number one because he’s a man and that we are around to be breeders and his gentle estrogen servants. He can trust we are gonna be domesticated cattle. He’s no better than any patriarchal tyrant and it now appears his only contribution to hip hop music is one of putting and keeping black women down. Is that really the part of black culture you feel refreshed by? Just because he has a legitimate grudge with white industry, you’d allow him to place you in submission? He’s not a man. He’s jealous. He’s not just jealous of Jay Z. He’s jealous of women. Can’t even see who any of us are…

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      • I could tell you didn’t champion him… But because he’s 100 percent oppressing Black women he can’t possibly be speaking to Black culture as a whole and so I’m not sure why you even want to be highlighting him. He doesn’t respect you at all. You are invisible to a man with his brainwashed mindset. He wouldn’t recognize you for real. He sees you as a womb and a service tray given to him by god. That’s dangerous stuff.

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  3. Firstly, If you follow the “hiphop motivator” series which Dame Dash co-hosts you will observe that Dame Dash has spoken extensively about his relationship with jay-z. If you follow the series chronologically you will get to an episode where they broach the rumours that jay-z allegedly has “informant” affiliations (snitches). This topic is broached again on a “sway in the morning” interview and Dame explicitly states the sensitivity of the topic due to close mutual friends of (he and Jay-z getting locked up). As a result he has decided not to speak on Jay-z again. I think it would be a bit dismissive not to consider this.
    Now based on your comments (katherinejlegry) that he is a chauvinistic,outdated, relic (I paraphrase here). I choose not to defend him . However consider this beyond the microcosm of his comments. His description of the male provider, going out to hunt and bringing home the beans however outdated, does not negate his thoughts on the ability of a woman to do the same in a contributory system or otherwise. he is merely describing a base module of socio-dynamic precept which is still very much in existence today. so for example: a lot of women consider marrying a man that has a good job to be a solid provider. whether or not they will contribute does not denigrate the provider role that is traditionally attributed to the male specie.
    We should also consider the fact that he has been attached to alpha-women such as Aaliyah and was married to Rachel Roy who is a successful fashion designer in her own right who stills maintains a business relationship with him (she may have however left him for the same reasons you’re calling him out o).

    On the whole i do not believe we should pick and chose points without considering the whole spectrum. His assertions were POORLY argued but i still think a complete understanding into history and perspective would be useful in getting a clearer perspective on his poorly presented narrative.
    moral of the story: Let’s not judge too quickly.

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    • UM…Hell NO!!! I don’t agree Jonny 9…
      I really without needing to say this, I am considering the MACROCOSM of his comments and what they REALLY imply for women and have all along. Are you seriously justifying his thoughts about women if held in the “right” context? I mean what the fuck? You want me to consider slavery when it was deemed acceptable? Because I get what went down in history but I’m not going to say it’s all good in the right context. HE has absolutely no reason to consider spouting an old system of religious indoctrinated submission and inequity. Easy for you to consider and benefit from and endure a system of male domination being male, Jonny, even if you don’t choose to “defend” him. For someone who doesn’t “choose” to defend him, you sure enough did.
      Please never preach to me about the male “species” like it’s a different kind of human. That’s selling everyone out. It’s a narrow view of gender. You are merely use to a traditional society structure and one that I don’t have to “consider”… I live it daily and deal with it’s limited concepts. I’m not against marriage, but that’s not what Dame Dash is speaking to. You might think he is, but he’s not. He’s talking about God giving him women as his servant class. And he uses an interpretation of GOD to justify his claims. So yeah, he’s not just chauvinistic, he’s dangerous to females and men because he would have you believe his hype.

      What Aaliyah chose to attach to has little to do with his protecting his reputation. It makes her look like an idiot. And Key word in that: he WAS married to Rachel. She’s smart to get ditch his sexist unappreciative arrogant ass.

      I always consider the whole spectrum btw. I want women to be considered and for men to stop thinking they aren’t getting their due. I don’t judge too quickly and you’re being sexist just saying I’m not because you’re taking the side of the MAN.

      So hey, everyone is their own boss like the man said right? He needs to shut up about women’s proper place and be responsible for his own. This isn’t a debate. It’s a universal human need.

      In terms of the snitch factor… so what? He covered his ass. He cares about number one. He said so. Everybody knows it.

      You haven’t a leg to stand on coming at me.

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      • katherinejlegry,
        1. I was hardly coming at you, I merely felt the points you raised gave ample room for good wholesome debate. which is why i engaged you directly.

        2. The reason I further suggested we consider his points outside of his perspective is understand that relationships and society today are a lot more complex that just a one sided toss of a coin. I was merely saying that I for one like to be a provider, but I like to do this in co-existence with another provider,”my wife”. equally sharing responsibility etc etc or not if she chooses not to. Basically the mention of one does not exclude the other for failure to mention it (so talking about the male specie in no way means that i am putting its need different or above that of a female).

        3. The fact that you think my comments were sexist is another reason why I thought to have this debate beyond what Dame was saying. How would I be sexist because I felt you had a myopic or different interpretation of a statement? When I said that I meant it generally as well not just in terms of your disagreement to his comments on gender.

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      • Jonny, pompous male religious rhetoric is in fact coming at me. I am a woman.

        There is nothing WHOLESOME about your debate. The U.N. report came out this month regarding the global domestic abuse and sexual abuse and rape of women. 1 in 3 women are raped. Cultural veils, religious veils, these excuses for legally raping women in marriages and or perpetuating smacking the ho, is not up for WHOLESOME discussion.

        Your topic is OLD.

        I don’t toss one coin. I toss three coins six times. Capeche? You know what that means? It means that I know when you’re commenting to me on line before I even check the computer. Do you know how to do that? What do you know besides the complexities of anything other than the typical marriage you are in?

        Dame wasn’t saying “choice” he was saying GOD gave him females as his gentle estrogen servants. They don’t snitch, right? They just get down on their knees.

        “Providers” are not the topic.

        Your conversation is inherently sexist as also the english language is. It’s built in. You conditioned to do it and you’re conditioned to deny it when you are challenged. And when you realize all of the micro-transgressions/aggressions in your attitude and language you will be able to understand I don’t need to waste my time on Dame Dash and his wholesome contextual defense. His language is violent towards women.

        His influence and nurturing of previous artists is so noted. But like Bill Cosby, methinks the legacy is corrupt.

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      • katherinejlegry
        1. I haven’t at any point mistaken you for a Minotaur rather than a woman.

        2.I would really like to learn and understanding the tossing of three coins, six times reference.

        3. Please expand on your ” Professor X” like abilities to know what I am doing before I know that I am doing it or that thing you said that I wouldn’t understand which I really don’t.

        4. I don’t condone slapping ho’s not sure I’m big on ho’ing altogether.

        In the meantime, I don’t think I’ve mentioned anything remotely religious. Atheists get married, so do lesbians these days (don’t believe religious communities are big on either).

        Final Thought: The statistics released by the UN are heart wrenching, thanks for including something actually fact based and thought provoking.

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      • Yeah hi, Jonny…

        You feel you need to say you are not mistaking me for a minotaur? Are you talking about Picasso’s interpretation or the actual origin of the myth as a symbol?

        You feel you are or are not in a labyrinth then? Are you confused by codes and riddles or refusing them? Do you understand the macrocosm microcosm?

        In defending Dame in his interpretation of GOD given religious rhetoric to cast females in the gentle estrogen servant role you have defended him and not the lesbians and atheists and women. The Presbyterian’s are the first christian church to just now openly accept gays. This is new. And the progress that has been made hasn’t stopped the discrimination, so…

        You as is DAME, by asking me to consider his MALE privileges granted to him by churches that oppress women historically, over my own context, is not acceptable. I’m not going to tolerate his sexism and what comes with the tyranny of his religious beliefs.

        I am against the white supremacist institutions which include the conservative churches.

        There are older books than the bible. I don’t have to believe in A book or the men that interpret them for others. Those people keep knowledge out of the hands of the people because knowledge is power.

        The 3 coins six times says egotistical interests that create factions ultimately leads to humiliation. That information should be accessible to all people.

        This is 4,000 years old but there is still an older book. You might not recognize it. It walks like a tortoise.

        These books like the bible might say things like, there are universal laws of “men”. But words are not sufficient. It takes study and years of practice to understand how to translate the Chinese.

        If you are seriously interested you’ll find out more.

        But in terms of the original topic, I have no reason to consider his contribution of context further. I don’t care what part he played in the foundation of hip hop, black culture, or Jay Z. I don’t even like Jay Z. He’s just part of the scene and power… although I wouldn’t dismiss Jay Z… and I do dismiss Dame. I don’t think my “favoritism” is about “presentation”, like if only Dame had just calmed down or something. It is about the context and not outer appearance that matters.

        He doesn’t have self awareness, humility or gratitude. He talks about love and doesn’t show any. He’s a lot like the evangelicals. Or catholics who are so loyal they protect the preachers and priests no matter what they do to women and children. Until those churches clean house and change, I’m not on backing Dame or any other boss-man within such walls. Neither will I endorse their complicit wives and girlfriends.

        I’m glad you learned about the U.N. report.

        In the news now the rapes of drugged girls by another Fraternity that kept records of their crimes on a website is now emerging.

        Note how swiftly everyone rushed to get rid of the frat boys singing racist songs.

        Note how no one is rushing to deal with the RAPISTS.

        Note how sloooooooooow people are to care about the girls.

        Rape is legal. It’s profitable. It gives Dame power. It gives catholic priests power. It gives muslim men power. It gives corporate business men-sex traffickers power…

        I understand microcosm macrocosm, Jonny…

        Are we debating about Dame anymore or do you need more reasons to protect his image and legacy or what’s up?

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    • A “positive presentation” is not going to help Dame Dashes “narrative”. The moral to your story Jonny, is drink the koolaide… it’ll all be okay just drink the koolaide…

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      • A better presentation would actually help it. If he spoke better on pride of ownership and striving to be an entrepreneur without insulting the working class and building something for your own to inherit and carry on. It would be received better and would definitely be a better narrative. You disagree?

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      • Do I disagree? Uh, yeah… LOL. You are so (unintentionally???) patronizing in your conversational approach…

        Just because you are speaking to me in a calm manner doesn’t make the shit shine.

        Pride of ownership is something people say when they sell real estate. “No broken windows”, right? It’s a 1950’s suburban show home with a perfectly watered lawn. It’s clean. So yeah, everybody wants nice property to ensure the whole neighborhood doesn’t go to the proverbial dogs.

        But women aren’t property. I realize Dame believes them to be trophies, but that’s part of his problem in dehumanizing them.

        There’s no way to clean up Dame Dash. He does insult the working class. And he thinks women are the working SECOND class.

        I don’t want to discuss religion and pride of ownership with you anymore. Ok? You’re defending someone who made his own bed. You go lie with him in it if you must.

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  4. Firstly, If you follow the “hiphop motivator” series which Dame Dash co-hosts you will observe that Dame Dash has spoken extensively about his relationship with jay-z. If you follow the series chronologically you will get to an episode where they broach the rumours that jay-z allegedly has “informant” affiliations (snitches). This topic is broached again on a “sway in the morning” interview and Dame explicitly states the sensitivity of the topic due to close mutual friends of (he and Jay-z getting locked up). As a result he has decided not to speak on Jay-z again. I think it would be a bit dismissive not to consider this.
    Now based on your comments (katherinejlegry) that he is a chauvinistic,outdated, relic (I paraphrase here). I choose not to defend him . However consider this beyond the microcosm of his comments. His description of the male provider, going out to hunt and bringing home the beans however outdated, does not negate his thoughts on the ability of a woman to do the same in a contributory system or otherwise. he is merely describing a base module of socio-dynamic precept which is still very much in existence today. so for example: a lot of women consider marrying a man that has a good job to be a solid provider. whether or not they will contribute does not denigrate the provider role that is traditionally attributed to the male specie.
    We should also consider the fact that he has been attached to alpha-women such as Aaliyah and was married to Rachel Roy who is a successful fashion designer in her own right who stills maintains a business relationship with him (she may have however left him for the same reasons you’re calling him out o).

    On the whole i do not believe we should pick and chose points without considering the whole spectrum. His assertions were POORLY argued but i still think a complete understanding into history and perspective would be useful in getting a clearer perspective on his poorly presented narrative.
    moral of the story: Let’s not judge too quickly.

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